As many of you know, I’ve been a Shia fangirl since I was 12-years-old. When Honey Boy came out, I completely bought his redemption narrative, and thought he was a changed man. It was hard for me to reconcile all of his contradictions. It’s still hard, but I believe FKA Twigs. I am so proud of her for speaking out, and I hope that she heals from everything he put her through. I also hope Shia LaBeouf genuinely commits himself to seeking help. How do you guys feel? (My Holes forum girls, feel free to sound off in the comments.)
I often feel in these situations that my feelings are beside the point. Not that anyone else has to feel this way. But so often, survivors are troubled with how others will react to their pain. I try to hold a space of hearing and acknowledgement, because that's often what survivors don't receive--sometimes even by people who say they "believe" them. I do wish FKA Twigs the absolute best. This is beside the point of wishing her well but I've interviewed her once and she struck me as a very passionate, committed artist.
So proud of her for speaking out, esp about a white man who has been in the public eye for so long. I'm sad, disappointed, yet another disappointment of a horrible year, but ultimately happy her story is being heard. Also makes me sad to not be able to watch the Elastic Heart video (or Holes) the same way, but so is life with getting too attached to media!
Yeah, he has more goodwill on his side just from being around longer and being a white man. Yes, Elastic Heart is totally tainted. I'm embarrassed I was this attached to a celebrity.
I, like most people, grew up with Shia, especially with Even Stevens and Holes. I was also really into Honey Boy, and thought it was touching that he was able to express a traumatic part of his life on screen, for thousands to see. Maybe a few months or a year after Honey Boy was released, I also found out that he abused his ex-girlfriend Mia Goth, so that put a sour taste in my mouth.
But with the news about Mia, and with FKA Twigs, all of my admiration for Shia went away, and I don't think it will ever come back. Abusers are not a group of people that I tolerate in my life. I hope Shia gets the help that he needs, but even if he rehabilitates himself, the detailed reports of the verbal/physical abuse that was done to Mia, FKA Twigs, and his other ex-girlfriend Karolyn, will always remain with me. Just because Shia was a victim of abuse himself, does not give him the right or even an excuse, to be the one to continue the cycle of abuse
To be honest I always felt some type of way about him since the Megan Fox incident. I thought he changed and he saw the error of his ways as well. However, he didn’t and he has to pay for his consequences.
I’m proud that FKA Twigs spoke out and I know it wasn’t easy for her to do but I’m glad that she did.
Looking on the positive side, I'm glad to see multiple women he's hurt supporting each other while coming forward with their stories. I never understood why anyone bought his redemption arc, so while I am sad to have my suspicions confirmed... I'm glad he's always been on my "shitty male child-star riding a wave of unearned goodwill" radar.
I feel like this too. I'm not joking or being frivolous when I say it was all downhill for him after Even Stevens (definitely an underrated show that made me defend him too long, ugh).
I often feel in these situations that my feelings are beside the point. Not that anyone else has to feel this way. But so often, survivors are troubled with how others will react to their pain. I try to hold a space of hearing and acknowledgement, because that's often what survivors don't receive--sometimes even by people who say they "believe" them. I do wish FKA Twigs the absolute best. This is beside the point of wishing her well but I've interviewed her once and she struck me as a very passionate, committed artist.
You’re always so eloquent.
So proud of her for speaking out, esp about a white man who has been in the public eye for so long. I'm sad, disappointed, yet another disappointment of a horrible year, but ultimately happy her story is being heard. Also makes me sad to not be able to watch the Elastic Heart video (or Holes) the same way, but so is life with getting too attached to media!
Yeah, he has more goodwill on his side just from being around longer and being a white man. Yes, Elastic Heart is totally tainted. I'm embarrassed I was this attached to a celebrity.
I, like most people, grew up with Shia, especially with Even Stevens and Holes. I was also really into Honey Boy, and thought it was touching that he was able to express a traumatic part of his life on screen, for thousands to see. Maybe a few months or a year after Honey Boy was released, I also found out that he abused his ex-girlfriend Mia Goth, so that put a sour taste in my mouth.
But with the news about Mia, and with FKA Twigs, all of my admiration for Shia went away, and I don't think it will ever come back. Abusers are not a group of people that I tolerate in my life. I hope Shia gets the help that he needs, but even if he rehabilitates himself, the detailed reports of the verbal/physical abuse that was done to Mia, FKA Twigs, and his other ex-girlfriend Karolyn, will always remain with me. Just because Shia was a victim of abuse himself, does not give him the right or even an excuse, to be the one to continue the cycle of abuse
To be honest I always felt some type of way about him since the Megan Fox incident. I thought he changed and he saw the error of his ways as well. However, he didn’t and he has to pay for his consequences.
I’m proud that FKA Twigs spoke out and I know it wasn’t easy for her to do but I’m glad that she did.
Kisha, I didn't know the Meg stuff. Also, thank you for being my friend all these years.
Looking on the positive side, I'm glad to see multiple women he's hurt supporting each other while coming forward with their stories. I never understood why anyone bought his redemption arc, so while I am sad to have my suspicions confirmed... I'm glad he's always been on my "shitty male child-star riding a wave of unearned goodwill" radar.
Idk why I bought it. :(
I feel like this too. I'm not joking or being frivolous when I say it was all downhill for him after Even Stevens (definitely an underrated show that made me defend him too long, ugh).
i just wrote about this myself. abuse can happen to any one of us and i just want us all to be more vigilant: https://whatwecouldbecome.substack.com/p/fkatwigs-and-what-you-need-to-do
Thank you for sharing. I'm gonna read it now!
Nikki, this is why I always say you are a writer. You always have the best observations.
Thank you for your friendship. Shia brought you into my life.
whew. this.